Darren Jamieson: Today on The Engaging Marketeer, I’m speaking with somebody I first met back in 2000, when we both worked at Electronics Boutique in the UK—down in Bracknell, in Berkshire. Electronics Boutique then became GAME, as you’ll probably know.
I’m speaking with Anthony Quinn, or Quinny, as we called him in the office. Anthony was responsible for setting up the affiliate scheme at GAME back in 2000. It became his baby—something he developed and evolved over the years while he was there.
Anthony now co-runs a company in Thailand, specifically for affiliates within Southeast Asia, and works with some huge brands to help them grow their marketplace across the region.
So, I’m going to be speaking to Anthony about how affiliate marketing has changed over the years, what it was like back in the early days when it was a complete cowboy era, and how it works now. We’ll look at how both big and small brands can use affiliate marketing to help grow their business.
[01:52]
Darren Jamieson: Tony, I’ve not seen you for—I think we met in 2000?
Anthony Quinn: Yep, that’s when I started.
Darren Jamieson: When you started at Electronics Boutique—GAME, as it became. I think we met again briefly some years after that at an affiliate marketing conference in, I think it was London, Earls Court or ExCeL—can’t remember exactly. I was probably a bit drunk.
Tell me, how did you get into the industry at GAME? What was your first experience?
[02:25]
Anthony Quinn: That was actually my first job out of university. Do you remember Brian Fitzpatrick?
Darren Jamieson: Brian, yes—yeah.
Anthony Quinn: He brought me on board initially as a marketing analyst. To be honest, I wasn’t really sure what I was going to be doing. Fresh out of university, I’d done a marketing and psychology degree and I was just thinking, “Right, this is the wide world—this is my first job, let’s see what happens.”
It started as a marketing analyst role, which evolved very quickly. Within three to six months, suddenly Brian was saying, “Can you handle the AOL and MSN tenancy placement deals?”
[02:59]
Darren Jamieson: Those were very funny at that time in terms of the amount of money that was spent and how little return there was.
Anthony Quinn: Massive amounts of money. It was just all banner ads. They’d ask, “Have you got new banners for us this week?” and they’d just throw them on their homepage. That was another acronym I learned pretty quickly—off-site.
[03:19]
The websites were pretty new at the time. They were outsourced to a third-party company, so there wasn’t much we could do. But I think within a couple of years, the company brought a development team in-house and restructured the site. That was when we fully rebranded to GAME and EB (Electronics Boutique) faded out.
That was probably the first pivot for me. Brian was really keen on affiliate marketing. I remember asking, “What is this affiliate marketing?” He said, “It’s going to be big. It’s all about partnerships. It’s a way to drive traffic and sales. Let’s give it a go.”
[04:00]
Anthony Quinn: So we signed up initially with an American company that had just come over to the UK. Very nice offices in Windsor.
Darren Jamieson: I didn’t get to go to their offices. You went, did you?
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, I went. The company was called B3. They got acquired later by Commission Junction and basically disappeared quite quickly. We tried working with them for about a year or so.
But when you’re launching an affiliate program for a brand as big as GAME—a big UK retail brand—you need access to publishers straight away. You need partners to come on board fast, or else you end up trying to build partnerships one by one, which is a slow process.
B3 didn’t have that, so we shut it down pretty quickly.
[04:47]
That’s when I really started researching affiliate marketing properly. I looked into what other solutions were out there, what types of partners we could work with. We ended up joining a network called TradeDoubler.
That was my first proper foray into affiliate marketing—when we launched with TradeDoubler. They were one of the biggest affiliate networks in the UK at the time. Huge client list, massive publisher base.
[05:17]
I was still pretty fresh. I didn’t really know what a good partnership looked like yet. But what I did know—and this became really important later on—was that I needed to brand it as something special.
Darren Jamieson: You may have got some help from me there…
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, maybe. I’ll give you some credit! I remember there was some artwork and stuff involved.
So I branded the whole thing as the “Get Into GAME Partnership Program.” I thought that was a pretty cool name, even though it was basically just affiliate marketing.
[06:00]
That’s when I started to learn the difference between good affiliate marketing and bad affiliate marketing.
At that time, there was a lot of shady stuff going on—pop-unders, cookie stuffing—all the ways affiliates could try to game the system to get commission through, let’s say, less-than-legit methods.
[06:22]
And then there was something else going on that most brands didn’t know about until later: PPC—pay-per-click. Affiliates realised they could bid on brand terms and drive traffic to the brand’s website. A lot of brands weren’t using Google Ads properly back then. They didn’t know how. But the affiliates figured it out and took full advantage.
They’d bid on the brand name, pay for the clicks, and send highly motivated buyers to the site. These were people already searching for the brand. They’d go to the site and make a purchase. So the conversion rate was sky-high.
[07:10]
And because the cost per click was low—it was very uncompetitive in those days—the affiliates made a killing. They’d pay pennies and make pounds in commission.
Darren Jamieson: So they were making a fortune?
Anthony Quinn: Oh yeah. You had people literally sitting in their bedrooms in 2001, and by 2005 they were driving Range Rovers. They made serious money.
[08:00]
Darren Jamieson: What kind of money are we talking? Like, thousands a month?
Anthony Quinn: Easily. Thousands. Depending on the vertical—finance and travel were the big ones. People were comfortable using those services online very early on. So the volume was massive.
These affiliates were milking it. Then the brands caught on and thought, “Hang on, we could just do this ourselves. Why are we paying 5, 10, 15% per sale when we could be paying 3% in ad clicks?”
That shift in thinking is what started the next phase of affiliate marketing—just before I left GAME in 2005.
[09:09]
Anthony Quinn: That was a really key part of my role at GAME—affiliate marketing, alongside some of the CPC and comparison partnerships we had. We also had to manage the website, which meant promoting all the hardware and software in different areas.
We tried to replicate the sponsorship and paid placement opportunities that companies like EA, Microsoft, and Sony could get involved with. Just like they did in-store, we brought that idea online—offering them placements across the site.
[09:48]
Darren Jamieson: I actually used to like the GAME charts. They were 100% based on sales, weren’t they?
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, totally based on sales.
Darren Jamieson: So you’re saying nobody paid for the number one slot in the charts?
Anthony Quinn: Well… maybe. Who knows?
[10:10]
Anthony Quinn: But seriously, from a tech perspective, working with Tony—the dev lead—was great. He had built Marks & Spencer’s site before that, and if I came up with a marketing idea, he’d figure out how to make it work technically.
We were doing things that were ahead of the curve without even realising it. One example was the limited stock live tickers—those little banners that created urgency.
[10:59]
But one thing we did for the affiliate channel, which was really clever, was the dynamic top ten charts. We created a PlayStation 2 top 10, for example, and affiliates could embed a bit of code on their site. When someone loaded the page, it would pull live data from the GAME site.
It would fetch the charts, add in the affiliate’s tracking links via TradeDoubler, and display a fully populated module with live top ten info.
[11:29]
The affiliates didn’t need to update anything. It was all dynamic. No one else was doing that at the time.
Darren Jamieson: That’s brilliant.
Anthony Quinn: It was great. Looking back, we were doing things that were really advanced for the time.
[12:02]
I was there for five years, and out of all the channels I worked on, affiliate marketing was the one I thought, “This is actually really good stuff.”
Darren Jamieson: It was your baby, wasn’t it?
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, 100%. I ran it myself and it ended up generating about 10–15% of all e-commerce sales, which was a big deal back then.
[12:33]
Darren Jamieson: For people listening who might not know—do you want to explain what affiliate marketing actually is?
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, good idea.
[13:07]
Anthony Quinn: So, affiliate marketing is all about partnering with a website, an app, or really anyone who has the ability to promote your brand or service—usually online.
They’ll promote your brand or product and, if someone clicks through and makes a purchase, the affiliate earns a commission on that sale.
[13:30]
So unlike something like Google Ads, where you’re paying for a click whether it converts or not, with affiliate marketing, you only pay when the sale actually happens. That makes it almost risk-free for the brand. You’re not spending until you’re making money.
[14:00]
You also get to control your ROI from the start. For example, with Google or Facebook, you typically just set a budget. You optimise it as much as you can, but once the budget runs out, everything switches off.
With affiliate marketing, you set your commission rate up front. You might say, “We’ll pay 10% of every sale.” So from the beginning, you know your margin, you know your cost per sale, and it never runs away from you.
[14:46]
Another benefit is that it’s an always-on channel. Once an affiliate adds you to their site, it’s usually there to stay. Then it becomes your job to keep them engaged—get them to feature your brand better or push it more—but they’re not going to switch you off like a paid ad platform does when the money runs out.
Darren Jamieson: But that’s the key part, isn’t it—getting them on. Because not all affiliates are created equal. You’ve got super affiliates who can make you tens of thousands, and then you’ve got smaller ones.
So how do you get in front of those super affiliates and convince them to promote you instead of someone else?
[15:53]
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. That’s what affiliate management is all about.
You’ve got a huge range of partners out there. When it comes to consumer-facing partners, you’ve got cashback and reward sites like TopCashback and Quidco in the UK. These sites promote thousands of brands.
So how do you get onto their homepage? Or even into the specific part of their site where your ideal audience is going to see you?
That’s where the management side of affiliate marketing comes in. Knowing how to approach those partners, negotiate placements, and get your brand the visibility it needs.
[16:53]
And there are thousands—literally hundreds of thousands—of potential partners depending on your product or industry.
I mentioned cashback and loyalty already. Then you’ve got voucher code sites. Most people, when shopping, will Google something like “Boots discount code” or “voucher for ASOS,” and they’ll land on one of those sites. That’s another kind of affiliate partner.
[17:21]
If you’ve got promotions running and want people to know about them outside your own website, those sites are great.
Then there’s social media, blogs, forums—even influencers. Say you’re Adidas launching new trainers. You give a pair to a content creator, they post a video or blog with affiliate links, and they get a commission on any sales.
[18:00]
That’s a great example of monetising content through affiliate marketing.
Darren Jamieson: And people listening will definitely know the biggest affiliates—Compare the Market, Confused.com, GoCompare. All affiliate sites. They earn commission on every insurance policy sold through them.
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. It’s the digital evolution of telesales. It’s the same idea—someone brings in the customer, the brand pays them a commission. But now it’s all automated.
[19:29]
Anthony Quinn: And the funny thing is, as a consumer, you don’t see any of this. You’re just shopping. You click a link, the pages load, and behind the scenes you’ve got redirects, tracking links, data being collected—all in milliseconds. That’s all affiliate marketing. It’s how the system tracks a customer journey and rewards the affiliate for bringing that customer in the first place.
[20:01]
Darren Jamieson: That brings us to an important point—tracking. I’ve been an affiliate myself for a long time. I don’t do as much of it now, but one thing that really mattered was how tracking worked, especially the cookie length.
Some companies would offer a 30-day cookie, some only seven days, and some even just one day. So if someone clicked your link but didn’t buy straight away, you could miss out on commission if they came back later outside the cookie window.
Amazon, for example—correct me if I’m wrong—but I think their affiliate program is session-based. So if the user clicks, closes the browser, then comes back and buys later, you don’t get anything.
[20:59]
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, I think that’s right. Amazon is session-based. I know for sure Booking.com works that way. The customer has to convert within the same session.
But here’s the thing—we’ve done the data analysis on this with clients. For low-consideration purchases, over 90% of conversions happen within the same session anyway. Within two hours, typically.
So cookie length often looks like a bigger deal than it really is.
[21:45]
When we onboard new clients, we usually tell them to set a 30-day cookie, because it looks better to the affiliate and gives you a competitive edge. But realistically, the data shows that it doesn’t make a big difference. Most conversions happen quickly.
Darren Jamieson: So from the advertiser’s point of view, offering a longer cookie window doesn’t really cost them more—it just makes them more attractive to affiliates?
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. You’re unlikely to pay more in commissions just because you’ve set a longer cookie duration—unless you’re in a high-consideration category.
[22:34]
For example, if you’re selling something like holidays or hotels, the customer’s going to come back a few times, do some research, maybe take a few days to decide. In that case, a longer cookie might help.
But if you’re selling something like a T-shirt, they’re either buying it or they’re not. And it usually happens right away.
[23:16]
Darren Jamieson: Let’s talk about what you’re doing now. You left GAME in 2005, but you’re not in the UK anymore, are you?
For context, we’re recording this on January 18th, and it’s absolutely freezing here—coldest day of the year. Where are you calling in from?
Anthony Quinn: I’m in Thailand. I’ve been here nearly nine years now.
[23:48]
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, I’ve been in Thailand for coming up to nine years now. After I left GAME in 2005, I actually went travelling. I booked a trip to Thailand—originally meant to be for 12 months, but I messed up the flight dates, and they wouldn’t change it. So I ended up with nine months.
I was just travelling around, taking a break, because although I’d gained some great experience at GAME, I still wasn’t quite sure what I wanted to do next. I’d saved up a bit, so I thought, “Right, let’s just go and think for a while.”
[24:27]
Two weeks before I was due to come back, I ended up getting a job in Phuket. It was for an eBay PowerSeller, of all things. They sold quite unusual products—mostly gothic dresses for women in the US. They were manufactured in India, shipped from Thailand. Weird setup, really.
I worked there for about nine or ten months, then came back to the UK and started talking to a few companies about getting back into something more structured.
[25:00]
Eventually, I got a role at a company called Rakuten. At the time it was known as LinkShare, but it rebranded after Rakuten acquired them.
Now, Rakuten is huge—especially in Japan. The brand awareness over there is like McDonald’s or Coca-Cola. They’ve got an entire ecosystem.
Darren Jamieson: They sponsor Barcelona FC now as well, don’t they?
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, exactly. I’ll get to that in a second—it was around the time I was there.
[25:32]
So I was working in Rakuten Marketing, one of their divisions. They offered a few services, but the main one was their affiliate network. Similar to Commission Junction or Affiliate Window. I joined as a client-facing account manager.
My first account was Charles Tyrwhitt—the shirt company with shops around London. That was the beginning. From there I moved up the company as I really started to understand what it takes to grow an affiliate program.
[26:08]
Over time, I became responsible for around 90 clients. There were different levels of service—some were self-managed, some lightly managed, and then a chunk were full-service clients. I think I personally oversaw about 40 of them, along with a team.
It was an amazing experience. I got to know the affiliate marketing industry inside out, and I developed my management skills—dealing with different clients, situations, and challenges.
[26:45] Now, going back to the Barcelona thing—we’d started hearing rumours that Rakuten’s owner wanted to sponsor a major sports club. But no one knew which one.
We were all hoping it’d be someone in London—Chelsea or Tottenham—because like you, I support Liverpool. But if it had been a London club, we were thinking, “Brilliant, we’ll get access to the boxes, take clients to games, really make the most of it.”
[27:19]
That didn’t happen. They did a deal with Formula 1 for a bit, I think—at least, that was the rumour. But eventually, it was announced: they were sponsoring Barcelona. And by then, I’d already moved on.
Darren Jamieson: Missed your chance for all-expenses-paid trips to the Nou Camp!
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. I was gutted.
[27:53]
Anthony Quinn: So I got to a point where I was quite senior at Rakuten. I wasn’t learning as much as I wanted anymore, and I thought, “You know what? Time for a change.”
But instead of making a small change, I went all in. I said to my wife, “I’m leaving the company. We’re going to move—probably to Bangkok. I’m doing some research now.”
She said, “I’m really happy here. Why do we have to move?”
And I said, “I don’t know yet, but I’ll figure something out when we get there.”
[28:26]
So we moved. And fair play to her—she came along and supported me, even if she wasn’t totally convinced.
Once we arrived, I started doing research. Affiliate marketing was my background, so I looked at that space in Thailand. What I noticed was no one was really doing cashback here. And I mean the kind of model we’re used to in the UK—like TopCashback or Quidco.
[28:56]
So I thought, “Why not?” I got hold of a cashback engine template—that was literally what it was called—got it rebranded slightly, and launched it.
I knew how to get advertisers on board, having worked in affiliate networks for years. Within three months, I had about 250 stores listed on the site, just by myself. It was busy from day one.
[29:26]
The biggest challenge was investment. I’d never gone through that process before. I joined an incubator program, which helps startups with support, advice, and in some cases funding—kind of like a startup bootcamp. They help you understand the legal stuff, how to scale on a budget, how to appeal to investors.
You either pay a fee or give up a bit of equity for their help. That was useful for a while.
[30:00]
Still, investment was hard to get. I didn’t know anyone who’d done it before, and I was just feeling my way through.
Eventually, I started talking to a similar company called RebateMango. They were already live in four countries and offered cashback, but also reward points, air miles, even donations to charity. You could earn cashback and choose whether to get it as points, airline miles, or cash. It was a clever model.
[30:32]
I spoke with one of the co-founders, Jesper. We clicked immediately. He was looking to expand more in Thailand, and I was looking to scale. So we decided to team up.
I shut my platform down and joined forces with him at RebateMango. That’s when things really took off.
[31:00]
Then COVID hit.
Just before that, we were about to close a seed round of around $1 million to scale up. We were right at signing stage. But as COVID started gaining traction, investors said, “Let’s pause for a couple of months and revisit once this blows over.”
We all know how that turned out.
[31:34]
Anthony Quinn: So yeah—COVID didn’t blow over. It dragged on. Not only did we lose the funding, but we also lost a massive part of our revenue stream.
A lot of our members were using RebateMango to earn air miles as their cashback reward. When travel stopped completely, so did their shopping. That entire segment of our user base just disappeared overnight.
[32:00]
So we had to scale everything back to a skeleton operation. Just a few of us in the senior team keeping things going. We did a couple of B2B deals to stay afloat—we white-labelled our platform for Malaysia Airlines, for example. Their members could earn miles directly through a branded portal we built for them. That brought in a bit of monthly revenue.
[32:31]
But honestly, we could see the iceberg coming. Me and Jesper—we’d both worked in affiliate marketing for years—we knew this wasn’t going to end well. It was one of those moments where you’re on the ship, you see the collision coming, but there’s no time to turn.
We had to make a decision: shut it down or do something new.
[32:57]
Everyone from the team went their separate ways, but Jesper and I stayed in touch. We looked at the affiliate landscape across Southeast Asia and asked, “Where’s the gap?”
And the gap was obvious—no one was really managing or growing the affiliate channel properly. A few general agencies were dabbling, but no one specialised. Even the brands didn’t really understand how to scale affiliate properly. It reminded me of how clueless I was about PPC back in 2002.
[33:30]
By that time, I had 20 years of experience in affiliate. Jesper had more than a decade managing programs at brands like Agoda and Booking.com, both part of Priceline Group.
So we thought—let’s set something up. But before we did, we made a list of the kinds of clients we wanted.
One idea was to work with UK, European, or US-based companies wanting to expand into Southeast Asia’s fast-growing e-commerce market. The other idea was to build a reputation locally by helping SMEs and then eventually landing big names.
[34:00]
Then we got our first call.
An affiliate platform contacted us and said, “We’ve got a global brand looking for help with their Thailand program. Are you interested?”
We asked who it was.
They said, “Lenovo.”
We said, “Yes. We’re very interested.”
[34:21]
Anthony Quinn: So Lenovo became our first client. That was a huge win. And after that, more big brands started coming on board—Allianz Insurance, FWD, which is a massive finance company out here, and others.
What we found was that it wasn’t the small businesses coming to us—it was the large ones. They had the budget, the ambition, but they didn’t have the internal resource or expertise to run and grow their affiliate channels across the region.
[34:53]
So we filled that gap.
And the demand for our help has just grown from there. We now work with both smaller and larger brands, but it’s the big players that are really driving it. Brands that don’t have time to build the channel themselves but know they need it.
We’ve now got a small but highly specialised team. Our headquarters is in Thailand, and we’ve built out support across multiple countries.
[35:27]
We manage affiliate marketing for Puma in five countries, Kaspersky in seven. And one of the biggest challenges in Southeast Asia is that each country is so different.
This isn’t like launching in France, Germany, and the Nordics, where you can often apply the same strategy with minor adjustments. In Southeast Asia, everything changes—language, culture, partner types, even how you do business.
[35:53]
You need that local touch in each country. We realised that early on and built a team that could support it. Now we have team members who can help us operate effectively in Thailand, South Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Hong Kong—you name it.
[36:19]
So right now, that’s what Loadstar Marketing is all about. We help brands really maximise their affiliate channel across this region.
We’re also getting more involved in influencer marketing. That channel’s been around a while, but it’s evolving. Spend is going up year-on-year, but brands are getting much more selective about how they use it.
Darren Jamieson: That’s interesting. It’s kind of like a cycle. Back at GAME in the early 2000s, we were throwing huge budgets at banner ads—MSN, for example—and eventually realised the return wasn’t there.
Now brands are throwing big money at influencers, and they’re starting to get picky about whether it’s worth it.
Are you seeing similar patterns?
[37:07]
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, so in affiliate marketing, I wouldn’t say we’re seeing the same kind of cycle—we’re seeing more of an evolution.
The way we position Loadstar now is as a partner marketing agency. Affiliate marketing is one channel under that umbrella. Influencer marketing is another. Then you’ve got business-to-business (B2B) partnerships and brand-to-brand deals, where two companies team up and cross-promote to each other’s audiences.
[37:46]
Then there’s what we call the “channel partnerships”—for example, we work with banks here that have their own member perks or loyalty platforms. Customers log in and get exclusive offers. We help get our clients’ brands featured there.
Influencer marketing is still a separate channel, but the line between influencer and affiliate is starting to blur. Some influencers now expect affiliate links, not just one-off campaign fees.
[38:19]
It’s not going around in circles—it’s evolving. But what has changed is how brands work within those channels.
Before, influencer marketing was mostly for brand awareness. You’d pay a few hundred dollars, get a few likes and shares, and that was it. The platforms would only show you the fluffy metrics—likes, comments, reach.
Now, things are different. The tech has caught up.
[38:54]
Affiliate platforms either built or acquired the tech to measure the full funnel—from impression to click, to conversion, to sale, and sometimes even lifetime value.
So now, you’re not just getting vague feedback like “500 likes.” You’re getting hard numbers: how many people clicked, how many bought, what your ROI was. And that’s changing how brands spend money with influencers.
[39:39]
Darren Jamieson: It’s good to hear that. We see similar things in SEO. People obsess over rankings—“Look, you’re number one for this keyword!”—but that’s just another fluffy metric.
The real question is: how many people are searching for that term? How many are clicking? Are they buying? Are those leads converting? What’s the lifetime value?
That’s what matters—not just position one in Google.
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. As the tech improves, brands have better visibility. They can make smarter decisions with their marketing budgets, which is great for the industry as a whole.
[40:19]
Darren Jamieson: You know, what you’re saying reminds me of when I was doing affiliate stuff back in the day. Before I even started at GAME, I was on Commission Junction.
I was earning $300–$400 a month doing nothing—just from eBay signups. They used to pay 50 cents for every person who clicked through and created an account. It was easy money. I thought I’d be earning that forever.
[40:50]
But of course, everyone has an eBay account now. They don’t need to pay for that anymore. Things change. What works one month might not work the next. That’s the nature of the beast.
Anthony Quinn: Exactly. It’s that old cliché—adapt or die. But it’s true. It runs through everything in this space. You can’t get stuck doing one thing one way, especially not in a tech-driven industry. Everything evolves so quickly, and AI’s only going to accelerate that.
People need to see the opportunity in it—not just the threat. Use it to do what you already do, but better.
[41:30]
Darren Jamieson: Well said. We’re almost out of time, so let’s wrap up with this—what kind of businesses are you looking to work with, and how can they get in touch?
Anthony Quinn: So, our company is called Loadstar Marketing.
We work with brands across a range of verticals—finance, retail, fashion, health and beauty, electronics, travel. Basically, any company that sells online and wants to drive more sales through affiliate marketing.
[42:00]
If you’ve got an e-commerce setup—whether that’s a website or an app—and you want to scale it using partners, we’re happy to talk. Affiliate marketing can drive up to 20% of your total e-commerce revenue. It’s a vital channel, and most businesses should have it in their mix.
Darren Jamieson: And are you working just in Southeast Asia, or globally now?
Anthony Quinn: Our core focus is Southeast Asia and the wider APAC region, but we do support in other countries when needed.
We’ve recently expanded into South Korea, and we’re always looking at where we can add value next. But yeah, SEA is the priority, because there was a big gap in proper affiliate support here when we started—and we’re filling it.
[42:47]
Darren Jamieson: Fantastic. Tony, it’s been a pleasure catching up.
Anthony Quinn: Yeah, it’s been too long. Hopefully I’ll see you when I’m back in the UK.
Darren Jamieson: Yeah, though you’re in bloody Thailand and I’m “miles away” up north!
Anthony Quinn: Next time I’m over, I’ll come to London. You’ll come down?
Darren Jamieson: I’m in Chester, mate. But I’ve got hospitality tickets at Anfield.
Anthony Quinn: Ahh, now we’re talking! Hospitality at Anfield? That’s incentive enough.
Darren Jamieson: Finally, you can enjoy Premier League hospitality—without needing to sponsor Chelsea or Tottenham.
Anthony Quinn: Exactly!
[43:14]
Darren Jamieson: Thanks again, Tony.
Anthony Quinn: Cheers, mate.
